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Venkman 18.12.2003 22:19

fehler in herr der ringe teil 3
 
gut ich excerptiere wiedermal fleissig aus slashdot ;)

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film2746

gut die meisten sind total lächerliche fehler.

die seite is andauernd dwon deswegen quote ich mal:


Revealing: When Theoden is talking to Eowyn before he dies one can see that he is wearing contact lenses.

Factual error: Hobbits can't grow beards, yet Samwise Gamgee has stubble in most of his close-ups in Return Of The King. Even if they could grow beards, it seems unlikely they would be in a position to be shaving on that journey.

Continuity: When Gollum drops the lembas from the ridge, you see the leaves it was wrapped in fluttering away, and the wafers fall roughly straight down. However, when Sam finds it later, the lembas is still mostly wrapped in the leaves, with only a few morsels broken off and laying around unwrapped.

Continuity: In the scene where Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli enter the cave where the dead army resides, Aragorn pulls a torch seemingly from nowhere (especially interesting considering that his horse, and consequently all supplies, have run off in the scene before).

Continuity: In the final battle scene, when Aragorn and crew are creating a "diversion" outside the gates of Mordor, everyone is on horseback. Later in the scene, when Aragorn and the other warriors charge the enemy, they are on foot. Even if they did dismount, where are the horses?

Continuity: In one of the final scenes of the movie, Frodo is writing in the book "There and Back Again," adding his own story. As he is finishing, he clutches the wound he received from one of the Nazgul in "The Fellowship of the Ring." In the hand that he uses clutch the wound, he still holds the quill pen. At the same time, Sam is entering Bag-End. When the camera angle changes, Frodo is still clutching the wound, but the pen has found its way into the ink jar.

Audio problem: In the scene where Gandalf enters the chambers of Gondor to speak with the Steward of the throne, the sound of his staff striking the floor matches the action in sporadic patches only. In the shot where he departs, that specific sound is consistent.

Continuity: When Gollum accuses Sam of eating the lembas bread, the crumbs on his shoulder don't appear until the shot when Gollum brushes them away.

Continuity: In the scene where Frodo is helped by Galadriel in Shelob's lair (in the "dream sequence") he lays on the ground. In his hair on HIS right side (viewers' left) is what appears to be some clovers or leaves or grass. The camera cuts to Galadriel then back to Frodo, the thing in his hair is gone. The camera cuts to her again and back to Frodo, the thing is back in his hair.

Continuity: When Gandalf enters the castle of Rohan, the shot of his back shows him holding his staff in a vertical position. When the shot turns to his front, he is holding his staff in an horizontal position. The shot turns to his back, and the staff is again in the vertical position. Then the shot turns again to his front, showing his staff in a horizontal position.

Continuity: When Aragorn, Legolas, Gandalf, Gimli etc, ride up to the gates of Mordor, the main characters go up to the gate on their own to demand it opens. The trails the horses leave on the way towards the gate are different to those that you see in the shot when they retreat after the gate has opened.

Other: As Aragorn leads the army from Minas Tirith towards the Black Gates, look at "Pippin" sitting in front of Gandalf. Rather than the usual scale stand-in actor, it is a rather stiff dummy.

Continuity: In the scene where Frodo is stabbed by the huge spider and wrapped in its web, while Sam is holding Frodo, the camera shows Frodo from Sam's point of view and shows Frodo's eyes open. A cut to a frontal view of Sam bending over Frodo shows Frodo's eyes closed. The next cut back to the original point of view shows Frodo's eyes back open.

Revealing: In the scene where the paciderm animals of Mordor are introduced in the battle, there's a shot that pans the front of the line of them. One animal has wood connecting its larger tusks, complete with barbs jutting out from the wood. As the orcs flee to regroup behind the animals, several run through the contraption unharmed.



Venkman 18.12.2003 22:20


Continuity: In the final scene of the film, as Sam returns home and his children rush out to meet him, the cows in the background change position each time the camera goes back to Sam.

Continuity: In the scene where King Theoden is dying under his horse after Eowyn has slain the Witch King, there are three spots of mud on Theoden's right cheek that are so clear that they almost appear to be a tattoo. The camera cuts to Eowyn, then back to Theoden, and the spots on his face are faint, smudged, and in different locations. The camera cuts again from Theoden to Eowyn and back, and the spots are back to their original locations, pristine and unsmudged.

Continuity: When the fellowship congregate around Frodo while he is recovering in bed. Aragorn and Legolas' line of sight is not correct, they are looking in the right direction but not at Frodo, Merry and Pippin.

Other: When The Steward of Gondor is about to burn Faramir on the pyre, Gandalf dramatically bursts through the doors on Shadowfax. Look at the rider's face - it is obviously not Gandalf, but a double.

Continuity: In the scene in which Gollum frames Sam for eating all the lembas bread, when Frodo is telling Sam to leave, the tracks made by the tears on Sam's face change from shot to shot.

Continuity: In the scene where Sam is returning the ring to Frodo in the orc tower, the number of fingers he has wrapped around the chain changes with each shot as the dialogue between the two characters progresses.

Continuity: In the opening scene with Smeagol and Deagol, they are standing on the bank of the river fighting over the ring. The ring falls from Deaol's muddy hand into the grass, and as the two collapse on the ground, both reaching for the ring, the ring is completely clean, despite being covered in mud in Deagol's hand only seconds earlier.

Continuity: The scene where Pippin and Gandalf are talking about "the end" in Minas Tirith, during the battle of Pelenor fields. In one close-up shot, Gandalf's sword blade is shiny and silver. In the next shot, it's coated in black orc blood, then in the next shot, it's silver again.

Continuity: In the scene where Frodo is tied up in the Tower, part of his face and hair is partly covered in spider webbing - the only opening is his face where Sam parted it to see that he had "died". After a few scenes of orcs, the next shot shows that Frodo has clean hair/face and his hands are still tied up.

Plot hole: How did Shelob's sting get through Frodo if he was wearing his mithril vest? Its obvious he wasn't stung higher or lower than where the vest was.

Continuity: At the end, after Elrond, Bilbo, Celeborn and Galadriel boarded the ship for Grey Havens, they are nowhere to be seen when the ship is behind Gandalf as he speaks to the hobbits and even when Gandalf and Frodo board the ship.

Continuity: In the battle where Aragorn's army is before the gates of Mordor, the dragons and eagles have a battle of their own in the air. In no subsequent shots is there evidence of the dragons that were killed and would have fallen to the ground below.

Revealing: In the first scene in Edoras (the capital city of Rohan). The first pan over Edoras: You can see the pan is shown in reverse, with the smoke going into the chimney and the fire at the end is burning backwards. The flags are fluttering oddly as well.

Continuity: Merry and Pippin drank Entish water (Two Towers Extended Edition) so they should be taller than Frodo and Sam, but when the 4 of them stand side by side in Minas Tirith they are the same height.

Continuity: When Pippin brushes past Gandalf the White to kneel down before Denethor and offer his own life, "such as it is," as a service to the King to repay the debt to Boromir in honor, the Wizard turns to his right to look at the Hobbit while calling out his name in an attempt to stop him, but his glance doesn't quite follow Pippin's move, which is understandable since the two actors don't actually share presence on screen at the same time (or at least distance from the camera).

Phantomias 18.12.2003 22:26

gibts tatsächlich leute die sowas interessiert?

Ich mein ok, ECHTE Fehler die man auch bemerkt, kein Problem aba des meiste auf der Seite is nur lächerlich.. Wer geht schon frame für frame durch einen Film?? :rolleyes:

Venkman 18.12.2003 22:28

also das mit der fackel ist thari aufgefallen, mir auch aber ich habs net ausgesprochen (natürlich ;) )

man kann über alles bis auf eins hinwegsehn:

Zitat:

Plot hole: How did Shelob's sting get through Frodo if he was wearing his mithril vest? Its obvious he wasn't stung higher or lower than where the vest was.
erklär mir das mal einer, das hemd wird ihm ja erst später gestohlen - is das ein fheler im buch oder legt er das mal ab? aber warum habens die orks dann nachdem sie ihn mitnehmen? sticht sie ihn in den hintern oder was :lol:

Theoden 18.12.2003 23:09

Ich kann mir schon vorstellen das ihr Gift das Kettenhemd durchdringt...immerhin eine Tochter von Ungoliant, die hats auch geschafft die Welt zu verdunkeln. ;)

Aber wie ich im anderen Thread schon gepostet habe:

Wieso erzählt Gandalf Pippin vom Leben nach dem Tod, und behauptet (sinngemäß) das sie(also Pippin und seine Freunde) nach Valinor kommen. Sie sind Sterbliche, und können in Mandos Hallen gschwind auf die Ewigkeit warten. Ausser sie heissen zufällig Luthien Tinuviel, Beren oder ein Ringträger. :rolleyes:

Und wieso sind die einzelnen Ringe in Minas Tirith so extrem hoch...die Steigung zwischen den einzelnen Ringen müsste ja unglaublich sein.
Ich hab mir das ganze viel flacher vorgestellt... :confused:

Hubman 19.12.2003 00:53

jojo, ich mein wenn ma da Buch und Film Vergleichen, können ma einen neuen Film drehen

ist imho in einem gewissen Maße getrennt anzuschauen, auch die Fehler die da auf der Seite aufgelistet sind, sind ja imho einfach nur lächerlich


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