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DLH158 07.06.2006 17:54

Welcher TFT-Monitor ist für das MIP geeignet?
 
Hallo,
für das MIP werde ich demnächst die TFT-Monitore anschaffen. Bei meinem Orientierungsrundgang im Kaufhaus habe ich heute allerdings festgestellt, dass viele der Monitore hinten gar nicht verschraubt sind. Kann man die denn dann überhaupt öffnen, um sie ohne Gehäuse von hinten an das MIP zu stellen?
Gibt es einen Tipp für einen preiswereten 19 Zöller, der für das MIP geeignet ist?
Gruss
Norbert

dnoize 07.06.2006 18:00

for my MIP (true scale 737 NG) i use a 19 inch WIDEscreen.

I use the Acer AL1916W. Here in holland it was only 239 euro's.

It can be opened easily (4 screws) and it fits perfectly behind the PFD/ND. Even leaves room for clocks.

Stef

DLH158 07.06.2006 18:31

Thank you for answering Stef. I just visited your website and saw your really nice engine. So I think that you use Project Magenta Software with your screens and there are no problems because of the display (widescreen) format?
Your clocks are running with software or another solution?
greetings
Norbert

patrick295 07.06.2006 18:46

Hallo Norbert,

ich bin zwar nicht Stef, aber nach den Bildern auf seiner Homepage wuerde ich sagen das sind Dummies von Engravity.

gruss

Patrick

east-air 07.06.2006 22:46

Hi,

ich würde darauf achten, daß das Bild auch noch aus einem spitzen Winkel gut zu erkennen ist. Bei TFT´s kann es zu Problemen kommen. Die Angabe des Blickwinkels ist wichtig.

Ich habe gute Erfahrungen mit einem Siemens Scaloview.

Gruß Michael

dnoize 07.06.2006 23:03

clocks are dummies indeed. However, the latest PM has the clocks.
I am thinking of using small tfts (car tfts) to display the clocks. there is space left for them. Can make pictures if you like

Viewing angle of most modern tft's is good. No problems with the acer.

Stef

dnoize 07.06.2006 23:08

Forgot this: Widescreen does not give any problems with PM.

Stef

DLH158 08.06.2006 11:21

Danke für die Tipps. Besonders das mit dem Blickwinkel scheint mir eine einleuchtend wichtige Sache zu sein, speziell für das EICAS, zu dem der Blick aus einem sehr schrägen Winkel kommt.
Und die Dummie-Clocks werde ich mir mal ansehen bei Engravity!
And I think that the optimum would be that the WIDEscreen format could be so 'wide' that the clock could be with software integrated...
Gruss
Norbert

dnoize 08.06.2006 16:11

Zitat:

Original geschrieben von DLH158

And I think that the optimum would be that the WIDEscreen format could be so 'wide' that the clock could be with software integrated...
Gruss
Norbert [/b]
20 inch is too small for that....so you would need a bigger than 20 inch. those exist, but the new problem that occurs then is that the top of the screen will be higher than the top of the MIP.

Stef

DLH158 12.06.2006 11:05

Wegen der clocks und dem Widescreen Format habe ich gestern bei Project Magenta nachgefragt. Hier die Frage und Antwort:

>> Before I buy the TFT displays I have to decide the format of the
>> displays (widescreen or normal) and therefore I have a question.
>> Is the 737 MIP clock integrated in the software?
>> In case of yes, can it be fitted into a 19" widescreen together with
>> PFD and ND?

>I think we have it, if not we can enable it for the 737... and it should fit
>on your widescreen.
>Ciao
>Enrico

Ich denke mal, gerade für diejenigen, die gerade in der Planungs- oder Bauphase sind, ist diese Antwort interessant.
Gruss
Norbert

(Extra-Danke nochmal an Stef für den Widescreen Tipp)

dnoize 12.06.2006 17:43

just one comment to that. It is no problem to fit PFD, ND and clocks on a 19 inch widescreen.

However, if you have a full scale setup a 19 inch widescreen will be too small. even a 20 inch widescreen is too small.

The 19 inch widescreen is exactly perfect for just the PFD and ND is you work true scale.

See the pictures below.

Its possible to use a bigger widescreen (23 inch ?) to display the clocks also, but problem here will be that they will be higher than the glareshield.

I will try to use a 5 inch or smaller (4 inch) tft for the clocks alone.

Below pictures of the Acer 19 inch widescreen TFT. My mip is exact scale (1:1) and it fits perfectly for PFD and ND.

http://home.casema.nl/pago/mipback1.jpg
http://home.casema.nl/pago/mipback2.jpg

Stef

DLH158 13.06.2006 10:02

...nice pictures and good overview (and really fine material ! )...

I'm not sure if I will do anything in full-scale setup. For my 'medium-budget' building project I will rather prefer compromises.
When I build a scale of 17cm (instead od 18cm origin) width in each case for PFD and ND and adding 3cm space between the intruments and 1,5cm on the left side, then there will be 7,5cm remaining for the clock....
...enough in case it is true that the Acer AL1916W has a width of 46cm.
Greetings
Norbert

dnoize 13.06.2006 22:01

Zitat:

Original geschrieben von DLH158
...nice pictures and good overview (and really fine material ! )...

I'm not sure if I will do anything in full-scale setup. For my 'medium-budget' building project I will rather prefer compromises.
When I build a scale of 17cm (instead od 18cm origin) width in each case for PFD and ND and adding 3cm space between the intruments and 1,5cm on the left side, then there will be 7,5cm remaining for the clock....
...enough in case it is true that the Acer AL1916W has a width of 46cm.
Greetings
Norbert

41 cm's

The AL2016W is 43,5 cm

I'm talking about the actual pixel width, not the casing.

DLH158 14.06.2006 10:29

Ups.. so I think with this information I definitely have to say goodbye to the idea for integrating the clock...
thank you Stef,
Norbert


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