HELP with FSDISP and 7digs.....
 

Hello,

I am looking for someone that is building a A320 cockpit and use the panels of Peter cos (FDS) in this case the FCU part where the 7 digs led need to be in. I have here already the fsdisp board and from the site of fsbus you can find the print to make for the pcb. I got from mathias (cockpit sonic) the number of conrad to order the correct 7 digs that need to be used... I made the pcb ( i made many) but it doesnt work at all!!

So anyone that have already his FCU working with the pcb print of the fsbus site in combination with the fsdisp board plz contact me or mention something here on this forum.


( i already got from cockpitsoninc) a set but this leds are to small and second of all the connector doesnt fit in the panel ... SO i really need a working version like the one that is showed on the FSBUS site!
Thanks already...

gr.

BWR
www.planesonline.nl

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Dear BWR ??
The LED parts that you have from CPS are for the FDS Panels.:cool:
The Display PCB Board from FSBUS are to big and alone for bigger LED Parts...not for the small Window at FDS/AGT Panel.

CPS has built a lot of special PCB Display Boards for the FDS Panels and AGT Panels.;)

Ask Mathias please, for the right one of LED Display PCB Boards.:)

Regards
ULI

Hello ULI,

(bwr = frans)

Let me try to explain it again... on the fsbus site and i am sure you know the links you can find the pcb layout for the 7 digs ( the 3 and 5 version)

I made those pcb's i got from mathias the correct 7 digs i needed to buy by conrad ( 15 inch i believe) and solder them on the 3 version pcb ... grab the cable that is conected to the fsdisp board and conected the pcb i made as mention to do on the FSbus site to that conector... and as i already had somany times before... the leds didnt show the result or at least some parts of the leds light up or the point light up at least nothing in the way it should be.

And just for your information the pcb's on the FSbus site ARE the CORRECT size for the FDS panels of the FCU.

Mathias made me a set ( not even close looking to the FSbus version) and those leds are much to small....

SO i have now the correct size leds with pins on top and bottom of the led and now i am really hoping that someone will give me the correct PCB layout to make the correct pbc to get mine 7 digs i have laying here and that i needed to buy comform mathias to work with the fsdisp i have here... meening plug and play... so no figure out if the pins are correct just like i got them before from mathias but now for the led size i have here!

And i just will be happy if i can get a set of 3 working ....

I assum i am not the first one that is going to do this so any help in this would be appricate...

gr.

Frans
BWR014

www.planesonline.nl

Dear Frans,
what you mean with this ?
( i already got from cockpitsoninc) a set but this leds are to small and second of all the connector doesnt fit in the panel ...
Is this now the correct LED or not ??

Example....we make many MCP Display Boards with 8mm LED, and not with the bigger LED Parts.
Anyway....take what you like, it passed in your Panels...

Have you at FSBUS Flashprogramm set the correct LED ?
Exampel : CC for Cathode and CA for Anode !

Next, at 3C Controller layout are a mistake to "F" and "g" LED-Light.
Has you this seen, and corrected ?
With this mistake the LED result is incorrect.

you are Netherlands?...can you a little bit write in German ??
But i inform Mathias with your Problem..Her Englisch is mutch better.

Regards
Uli

I will put some pictures here tonight maybe it makes it a bit more clear...

sorry, i can read a bit german but write would even make everyone more lost :)

i also have contact with mathias but maybe someone already figured it out so help will always be greatfull

Frans

Url,

I did make some progress and i got 3 leds to burn ok only BIG problem i have now is that it does start to count like this 001 (showed on screen 100) or 010 ( showed on screen 1000) so it looks like it goes backwards example: number 1342 will be showed as 013
the 42 will not be seen on the display
what can that be?

gr

Frans

Uli,

here some pics for example...

http://www.planesonline.nl/images/DSC01531.JPG
http://www.planesonline.nl/images/DSC01532.JPG
http://www.planesonline.nl/images/DSC01533.JPG

hope this helps the explain

Frans

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Hi there.
That is a Problem with numbered for the LED from K1 to K5.
He beginns with "K1" from right ... goes to left side at "K5".

You have the numbered at the PCB Circuit correctly ??
At the moment i mean that you have forget the number "k1" ....
You have numbered from left....

You must numbered from the right side....see please the FSBUS circuit Layout for the LED Digits.

I make at your first Photo the right layout way ....wait a moment please !

regards
uli

Ok Uli,

All i did was put the layout on the print and connected the leds on it so K1... K5? no idea i assum that layout is ok unless i did something wrong but than the layout on the site wouldnt be right...

but i wait for your response ... thanks already so far :)

Frans

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hi,
here the picture.

regards uli

Uli,

Thanks for the picture i see that all the pcb's i made where all for nothing because the layout isnt correct as posted on the site...

Would maybe a tip to correct that so people dont spend 1 month on nothing...

Not everyone is a electronic person and count on the information of a site that it will be correct ... (like me)

But this thing with change wires is also not handy so is there anyone that will have a correct pcb layout for the 3 and 5 set digs?

Would be much more handy than this crossing wires again...

Frans

Datasheet !
 

Hi,
please go to downloads at C..?..P..?..S.
There are the correct Datasheet for the 3c Display connector.

No more frust....;)

regards
uli

Uli,

You made the nice drawing for me and i try to figure it out... but is there a option that you can put on that drawing you made also the way i have connected now? i understand that the K.. are not on the correct place now but where do i have my K.. now? example you mention K2 needs to be connected to the most right down pin but where do i have my K2 now connected? other words ... with wire goes to what pin now? you showed me now the correct one with that drawing but now the question is for me where i find the K1 t/m K5 on the pcb i made?

gr.

Frans

Uli,

Is this making any sence?

http://www.planesonline.nl/images/DSC01534.JPG

Frans

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Hi,
thats is the right one !!!!

Yours not correct.

Regards ULI

what about this Uli?

http://www.planesonline.nl/images/DSC01539.JPG

Frans

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Ok,
Take a look to the picture....

regards
Uli

Uli,

I see the picture... i understand that the leds get on top and you want to connector at the bottom..

i am sorry, dont understand what i did wrong ....

Frans

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Hi,
at this time is nothing wrong....

You must solder the parts we at ....example, at picture.

When you put the connector on Top from the board.....then you have also the wrong results !

Make your boards with this layout and put the parts as the last picture...and all is good.

regards
ULI

.... ok:) will give it a try...

But if i want also the connector at the top.. how is the situation than? will be not easy to solder the connector now from the bottom...

Frans

(sorry, very new in this drawing thing... ( more like today started) so i hope not that bad .... )

Frans

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Hi,
i can say this not correctly at Englisch....here is the answer in German.
I hope you understand this a litle bit.

Wenn Du den Connector nach oben setzt ist er Spiegelverkehrt und dann sind alle Anschlüsse falsch herum.

Wenn Du den Anschluß oben haben willst must Du das Layout komplett neu machen.
Selbst wenn Du es jetzt nur spiegeln würdest wäre K1 dann K3 !

gruß uli

Hi,

I understand it... i have to change then the k1 and k3 again and also than the other ones i assum so it is exactly the other way arround..

Will try to do that as well and let you see the result of it...

Frans

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Hi,
Beispiel

Exampel Picture.

Hi Uli,

Is this the right way to put the pins to correspondent correct with the connector when i want the connector on top aswell?

http://www.planesonline.nl/images/led3.bmp

gr.

Frans

here the right now

regards uli

Rgr:)

Back to drawing board again :)...

Thanks

results will follow again

Frans

Hi Uli,

Have try i think 3 hours now to get the connections somewhere to fit but i think it is not possible.... guess iam not able to use this leds unless i need to solder the connectors on the other side what again is also not possible...

really a pitty that i am the one that need to figure out how to make just a simple 3 led display board with the discription in the fsbus manual that doesnt seems to be correct...

I did try my best but i guess this case to high thoughts...

give it up for now ... seems noone else is at that part yet so maybe someone with more skill in making pcb drawing will help me out...

Thanks for your support Uli:) i am sorry i couldnt make it..

Frans