Paar Bilder wie versprochen
 

Hallo,

Wie verprochen sende ich paar Bilder von meinem Cockpit im heutigem Zustand.
Diese Teile (schon mal veröffentlicht in einem provisorischen Zustand) kommen von einem Schrottplatz in England und sind komplett überholt worden. Es sind Yoke und Pedestal von einer "Short 360"

Gruss

Roger

anderes Bild...

Links und rechts vom Quad kommen mal später die COMMs-NAV- usw..

weiter mit der Säule.....
Yoke ist original von der Short 360 und die Säule von Baumarkteile hersgestellt.

paar Details

kleine details........bzw USB Adapter und 100K Pot für das Pitch Control.

Das sieht klasse aus! wow.

We just finished attaching the yoke on our club sim project, it starts to look like an aircraft as well:

http://tigert.gimp.org/vatsim/albums/yoke/aaz.sized.jpg

We have a small "dampener" (like car suspension thing but small, for industrial washing machines, made by Monroe) that resists movement for elevator - it makes a nice and heavy feeling. I am not sure yet if we need to have a centering spring at all.

Next we need to connect the potentiometers and see how the thing works in practice. The feeling is very promising.

(Simkits for gauges, FSBUS for radios and switches, a C150 cockpit section for the "casing" :))

Best,

Tuomas

Hi Tuomas,

I do use Gas-springs since I did not find "cheap" dampeners in that smaller size. I am not satisfaied of the feeling since the first spring cancels the effect of the second one
With my first attempt making a Yoke with column I did use a dampener coming from a fitness device, which give a terrific feeling but is very big.
How did you get yours???

Kind regards

Roger

Hi!

Yea, I had the same problem with the gas springs on my home setup.

The dampener is from an industrial washing machine, a friend is working on a repair/manufacturer company and those are used spares. Still fine for the simulator since they just replace those pre-emptively when the machine is serviced.

You can just use a regular car suspension too - just link it very low on your yoke column so you have a lot of torque on your yoke handle compared to the short & smaller "moment" the dampener has. It doesnt really matter if you use just a part of the movement anyway. By moving the attachment point higher on the yoke column, it becomes heavier. Might be a good thing to have two places for the dampener even with a quick-to-switch fastening so you can fly a light GA plane with the lower setting and a bigger jet with the upper one.

Tuomas

Tuomas,

Do you have a picture of this dampener ??

Regards
Roger

It looks like a car dampener, but it is just half the size.

But I bet a car one would also work if it was just fastened to pretty low, close to the tilting bearings on your yoke.

It doesnt center though, need to think aobut that.

Tuomas

Tuomas,

I prefer anyway that a yoke is not centering. In the real world it is also like that once you have trimmed the plane.
But does your dampener work in both side, pulling and pushing.
I did use two monroe dampeners coming from a fitness device. But I had to use two since they were working only one way and they were really big. I still use them on my rudder pedals.
If I cannot find any, do you believe I could buy you one??

Best

Roger

Yea, the centering thing is what I need to try in practice too. It sort of is a "poor mans trimming" to just pull the yoke to a position, although it would naturally be best if the thing centered, and one could adjust the centering point with the trim. But it doesnt sound trivial to do. But we'll think about that for the aviation club sim anyway - lets see if there is a solution we come up with. For now it will be non-centering though.

The dampeners are both-ways. The fitness stepper thing I also have does indeed have those one-way ones. They are also big.

But get the smallest (and cheapest) one you can find from the car parts shop. Also you might check if motorbikes or scooters have smaller ones.. Those likely work both ways.

Speaking of cars, car rear brakes have springs too if one needs them, and there usually are "spring and fastener kits" available if you need to change the brake pads, and those are not expensive. Just need to see if any of those are suitable. Usually there are maybe four springs - two of each the same size.

And since we touched the subject of springs, another good spring source might be music instrument shops - electric guitars have the "bender" that holds the strings in tune with a few strong springs, those might be useful for something like a yoke too. And they are not very expensive, I saw a set of 5 springs for 7 euros somewhere.

Tuomas